News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview


By PelerinStJames
May 10 2012

After securing their spot in the end-of-season play-offs against Worcester Warriors last time out, Saints travel to London to face Harlequins on Saturday afternoon in the first of the semi-finals. Regular COYSDC contributor PelerinStJames looks ahead to the game...

HARLEQUINS vs. NORTHAMPTON SAINTS

AP-SF: Saturday, 12th May 2012 - 2.45pm (Sky)

TWICKENHAM STOOP

MATCH PREVIEW

It strikes me that these days, the idea of the regular season is simple – get into the top four (ideally top 2), and then start playing.  As history shows, Wasps were the past masters at this, and Gloucester, well, they weren’t. As Saints fans will recall in 2010, simply winning the most games between September and April guarantees nothing, not even the kudos of finishing top of the regular table, let alone a final place. All you get for 7 months endeavour is the chance to prove again that you are the best, with the starting advantage of a home semi- final. Conversely, for the side that finishes 4th, there still remains a shot at glory, after all, the only trophy there is, is for the side that wins the Premiership Final. So, forget what has gone before, the slate has been wiped clean, it is time for knockout rugby, where, as both sides know, anything can happen. 

As it happens, neither  Saints or Quins have tasted success in the play-off Semi Finals, Quins losing their only other appearance at this stage of the season at home to London Irish in 2008, and the Saints being pipped at various times by Wasps, Sarries and Leicester. So, whatever happens on Saturday, one side will be making club history.  For Harlequins, it would be a fitting end to what has been a remarkable season for them. They started brilliantly, with their fast moving offloading game taking them undefeated deep into December, when they lost in Europe to Toulouse, and then domestically against reigning premiership champions Saracens in front of a then world record crowd at their other home, The Big Stoop. Despite a loss a FG, and then losing some key players to England, Quins have never the less maintained their position at the top of the table, and thoroughly deserve their home advantage.

Like Northampton, despite their long and proud history, Quins have never been crowned English Champions. Twice winners of the old knock out trophy (including defeating Saints at HQ in 1991), and three times winners of the secondary European Trophy, they have beaten both Munster and Toulouse away in the last two years and are certainly not a side to be underestimated by any stretch of the imagination. Led by the incumbent England captain and player of the year, Chris Robshaw, and guided by the Kiwi Nick Evans at 10 and Nick Easter at 8, the Harlequins brand of rugby is generally a pleasure to watch, with young skilful English players very much to the fore, many of whom are tipped for future international honours, if indeed, they haven’t already got them.

As for Northampton, a stuttering season is drawing to its close, yet here we are, hanging on in there, and only two games from glory. The media are very much portraying us as the underdogs, and it is very hard to disagree with that.  Quins are riding high on confidence and belief at the business end of most probably their most successful season ever, where as Saints have toughed it out through a seemingly endless series of distractions and inconsistency. Yet we still find ourselves in with a chance. Contrary to last year, the players are fresher, and the squad has more depth to it. Our substitutions have been making a big impact and we have plenty of big game players to call upon. Whilst Quins have the edge in youthful exuberance, Saints possess with in their ranks the greater experience and have consistently threatened a big performance, yet not quite delivered it. Well, there is no time like the present to do so.  For a number of players, this could well be their last outing in the Green, Black and Gold, and no doubt they will be desperate to finish at the Big, rather than Little Stoop so what is certain is that no Saint will lack for motivation.

As far as the teams goes, injuries permitting, I think they line up something like this;

 

Harlequins

15 Brown

14 Williams

13 Lowe

12 Turner-Hall

11 Smith

10 Evans

9 Care

1 Marler

2 Gray

3 Johnston

4 Kohn

5 Robson

6 Fa’asavalu

7 Robshaw (c )

8 Easter

 

Northampton Saints

15 Foden

14 Ashton  (Armstrong or Artemyev if not)

13 Pisi

12 Downey

11 Diggin

10 Myler

9 Dickson (c )

1 Tiny

2 Long

3 Mooj

4 Sorrenson

5 Day

6 Craig

7 Dowson

8 Wilson

There  are mouth watering match ups all, with many players up against their direct rival for the England shirt, and it promises to be an intense battle all across the pitch. With two sides committed to producing entertaining and running rugby, I am expecting it to be a relatively high scoring affair, and a game that any neutral should enjoy.  Saints have an edge for me up front and in the tight play, and will certainly need to maintain dominance here to prevent Quins playing their preferred high tempo game. Nick Evans will seek to control the game, with Mike Brown a constant threat coming up from full back. For the Saints, Foden, Ashton and Pisi provide the cutting edge in the backs, and are capable of ripping through any defence, especially on the counter attack.    

Semi-Finals are normally a day for cool heads in the most intense of pressurised situations, and I believe that the side that remains calmest in the heat of battle will win the day, with only a single score separating the two sides. Harlequins are worthy favourites for they have home advantage, form and momentum, yet for me, this Northampton side are due a big performance and I think that the players will rise as one to the occasion, and led by the departing Wilson, Downey and Ashton, sneak a narrow victory 30-28 at the death.  

COYS – History beckons…

News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: ComeOnYouSaints.com (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 13:22

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Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: Phil. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 13:24

Nice one, PsJ.

Many thanks! (Sm13)

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: deadlyfrom5yardsout (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 13:38

Dickson as skipper is an interesting one. Looking forward to a great game. Lets hope the Ref and the weather help us all!

Come On You Quins!!!!

(Sm128)

The game's afoot;
Follow your spirit: and upon this charge,
Cry — God for Harry! England and Saint George

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: Quins4life (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 13:41

Great preview to what should be a cracking game. I think earlier on in the season I would have agree that the Saints pack would get a considerable upperhand over ours, however, inlight of recent performance, I think Quins could be able to get on top/or at least match them. especially with the noticable absent of Hartley who you sorely miss I think...

It will be a great game, and good luck to both sides (not to much for you Saints); but I will definitely be supporting which ever team wins this semi in the final!!!

COYQ!!!!

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: Stooperman (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 13:53

Great preview, look forward to seeing you Saints at The Stoop. My only consolation if Quins lose to you guys, would be that there will at least be one team in the final that I actually like!

If we get the predicted downpour tomorrow, I wouldn't bet your mortgage on a high scoring game, as The Stoop is prone to getting a bit boggy, and must be very waterlogged already.

Here's hoping for a fine day and some terrific rugby - and may the best team win!!

Quins of course(Sm159)

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: Rugby101 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 14:37

Great preview! See you at Twickers!

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: BrianB (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 15:20

Good preview.

I'd like to see us with a more balanced back row - Dowson at 8 with Craig and Nuttley from the resources we have available.

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: Monte (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 16:12

I agree with Stooperman, however the forcast is dry for Fri/Sat so fingers crossed. hopefully the pitch may dry out a bit. Look forward to seeing you all on Saturday and hope we have a cracking game whatever the outcome . . . !

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: tedge (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 16:37

Good preview. If Ashton is not fit I wouldn't be surprised to see May in his place.

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: John Rickerd (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 16:51

I would rather see Jamie Elliot, and May on the bench as he can cover most positions if pushed.

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: Howlin (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 18:17

Good preview. If we had Woody, Dylan, Callum and lawes in the reckoning I would be very optimistic. But this is a big game to take on with so much leadership absent. Still we live in hope.

I also agree Stooperman with your sentiments, if we were to lose !

Saint til I die

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: ElmaFudd. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 18:55

Nice preview thanks. Unfortunately I shall not be attending or even able to watch or listen, having, as I do, a much more important and unmissable appointment. However I will be with the lads in spirit and should we prevail will be obtaining final tickets if possible.

COYS!

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: LaurieK (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 19:16

Good preview thanks. That sets us off nicely. We have discussed rotation a lot but apart from freshness you need form. We can't say we are on a roll but, as you say, it's cup rugby and we start from scratch. Surely the recent semi defeats will hurt and spur us on even more. And will our experience of big knockout games count?

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: Harley Quin (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 19:39

Great preview, thanks! It has the potential to be a cracker. I agree with the thought that Saints are due a big performance, I just hope it comes in September! ;-)

Always enjoy games against Saints, Franklins Gardens is my favourite away ground. Can't wait for Saturday. look forward to seeing some of you there....

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: St.Rich Joe, Niamh and Sam's Dad (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 20:12

perfect

No alcohol for January. I'm a dryathlete in aid of cancer research.

Dryathlon

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: Wee Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 20:26

Excellent preview!

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: Edward (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 20:51

Quote:
BrianB
I'd like to see us with a more balanced back row - Dowson at 8 with Craig and Nuttley from the resources we have available.

Drop Roger!?! Really?

Fantastic preview. Can't wait!

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: DorsetSaint (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 21:29

An annoying preview. I had absolutely convinced myself we will lose prior to reading this. Mentally I had already come to terms with defeat. But reading this gives me hope. It's the hope I can't cope with.

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: St Marlowe (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 23:04

Quote:
Harley Quin
seeing some LOADS of you there....


Great Preview
Like Dorset I am overwhelmed by hope!

David L

What if there were no hypothetical questions?

- Live wrong and preposterously

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: Phil. (IP Logged)
Date: 10/05/2012 23:39

Quote:
DorsetSaint
An annoying preview. I had absolutely convinced myself we will lose prior to reading this. Mentally I had already come to terms with defeat. But reading this gives me hope. It's the hope I can't cope with.

DS,

I believe this is what you are referring to...

"It's not the despair, Saints, I can take the despair.
It's the hope I can't stand."


Will we beat Harlequins? Form suggests not. Can we beat Harlequins? Oh hell, yeah!


There's another film quote that I like. Try this one...

"I find I'm so excited, I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I think it's the excitement only a free man can feel, a free man at the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend, and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope..."

I'm sure I can work that one round to Saintly colours... (Sm14)

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: hoddros (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2012 05:28

Great preview PSJ.

I too am now nervous when before I was resigned to defeat.
If we win it will put me in a tricky position. I am already flying home to UK from Singapore twice this summer for weddings and graduations, another trip would put a bit of a strain on the finances, and an even bigger strain on my neck if Mrs Hoddros gets hold of it.

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: ElmaFudd. (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2012 07:09

Shawshank redemption Phil, most apt. We, that is saints have reached the playoffs through hard work and had to crawl through our fair share of carp on the way. Freedom is just 2 matches away! COYS



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Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: BrianB (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2012 07:39

Eddie,
This season Roger has played some good games against average opposition and average games against good oppos. It's good oppos all the way from now on.

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: Edward (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2012 11:46

Same could be said of Dowson too though. I think Roger will play.

Re: News: Saints to the Stoop to Conquer? Harlequins Preview
Posted by: BrianB (IP Logged)
Date: 11/05/2012 11:53

So do I!

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