News: Dusty Hare on the importance of Dual Registration


By COYSDC
August 13 2012

   Dusty Hare on the subject he knows best - Youth recruitment and retention. Give the way that the academey is shaping up - a timely piece from from our Recuitment and development director . Ahead of a season where we will have more academy players in contentiion for matches than in the last few years - he outlines how the club will keep them fresh 

 

Dual registration important for youth development

Moseley, Coventry and Cambridge all had Saints Academy players turning out for them in 2011/12, and Hare is building on these existing relationships to give the 2012/13 Senior Academy similar opportunities to enhance their game understanding.

“We saw last season how much players improved by playing in either The Championship or National League One,” Hare commented. “Our Long-Term Athlete Development programme means that when players join the Senior Academy they are physically ready to play adult rugby. And because we are not having to catch-up in this area it means that we can concentrate on improving them as rugby players.

“We have developed good relationships with Moseley, Coventry and Cambridge over the past couple of years and we will be looking to develop these in the next season so that we all benefit. The players develop their own game while helping those clubs have as successful a season as possible, and we can continue our policy of bringing together a group which have the potential to play for the Saints for years to come.”

We will keep supporters up-to-date with how the dual registered players get on throughout the coming season on the club’s website and in the match day programme.

News: Dusty Hare on the importance of Dual Registration
Posted by: ComeOnYouSaints.com (IP Logged)
Date: 13/08/2012 15:34

What do you think? You can have your say by posting below.
If you do not already have an account Click here to Register.

Re: News: Dusty Hare on the importance of Dual Registration
Posted by: Broonie (IP Logged)
Date: 13/08/2012 16:22

he seems to have forgotten to tell you that Danny Herriott has in the last week signed Dual Registration forms with Coventry for this season. just an oversight, i'm sure .

Re: News: Dusty Hare on the importance of Dual Registration
Posted by: St Owen (IP Logged)
Date: 13/08/2012 16:32

The crumbs under this table are mighty tasty.

You can't always get what you want, But if you try sometimes well you might find, You get what you need.

Richards/Jagger

Re: News: Dusty Hare on the importance of Dual Registration
Posted by: Eif Jones (IP Logged)
Date: 13/08/2012 17:13

More important because of the lack of a decent fixture list for the academy boys in Saints colours.

Is there a limit on the number of duals that the likes of Moseley, Coventry and Cambridge are allowed in a match day squad? With virtually all the AP clubs dualling their academy players like mad, there is a danger that promotion and relegation would be unduly affected. I believe London Welsh had a fair sprinkling of duals helping them during their promotion season. It was only a few years ago that Moseley won an EDF cup thanks to their dualled Gloucester players. I'm surprised that Cambridge is in this list as at the end of last season our ex Darren Fox was loaned to Bedford because, apparently, his club Cambridge had run out of money.

Re: News: Dusty Hare on the importance of Dual Registration
Posted by: Broonie (IP Logged)
Date: 14/08/2012 12:15

well, eif, you seem to be getting a bit random here.

I'm impressed with your concern that the integrity of competition in the championship should not be tainted and that promotion and relegation be preserved .

I maybe need a reminder about how promotion and relegation work in Cymru ,though, as i confess my memory's not what it was.

I was in a way of thinking that dual registration in English rugby might be a dastardly attempt by the Saes to import some of the pathways up the pyramid whereby feeder clubs supply to the districts who in turn produce the players for the national team ? maybe i've misunderstood, however.

last year the Academy and Junior Academy players had well in excess of 20 fixtures , spread between U-17, U-18 and U-19 and wanderers (now more senior academy focussed), and this was more than the previous season, and this season is targetted to be more still. taking in both A League and Dual registration games , our academicians are getting a very full fixture list now.

Re: News: Dusty Hare on the importance of Dual Registration
Posted by: St.Rich Joe, Niamh and Sam's Dad (IP Logged)
Date: 15/08/2012 05:41

Geoffrey boycott syndrome - where you talk about the past as if it is the present.

No alcohol for January. I'm a dryathlete in aid of cancer research.

Dryathlon

Re: News: Dusty Hare on the importance of Dual Registration
Posted by: SaintGav (IP Logged)
Date: 15/08/2012 13:13

Have to say that Eif makes some good points. If age grade rugby and A league is of a high enough standard clubs wouldn't be scrambling to DR youngsters in the way that they are.

There is a limit of believe 6 that can be fielded in any matchday squad but think a club can take more than 6 different players over the season. Think Saffies have DR'd 11 with Bedford!

You only have to look at Rolling Maul site to see the level of concern about the effects of DR on the Chapionship clubs and the promotion/relegation situation though. It really divides opinion. Can backfire spectacularly as in the case of Leeds last season who saw half a dozen DR'd players called back to their host cubs at short notice forcing them to reinstate the players they had been brought in to replace. Not a good situation to be in I would have thought but wholly their own doing but also conferring an unfair advantage to the sides who ended up playing them when they were depleted.

The evidence is incontrovertible that DR to a Championship club provides real opportunity for emerging players as we have seen so many come though this route over the past couple of years to international honours. Possible downside though is that you may lose a promising youngster (e.g. Glyn Hughes) who has his head turned by the promise of first team rugby and votes with his feet to seek his fortune in the Championship.

Re: News: Dusty Hare on the importance of Dual Registration
Posted by: Saint Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 15/08/2012 21:15

Gav,

Eif often makes some good points but wraps them up in rhetoric which upsets and annoys many posters.

I try to look through those for the nuggets that are there.

http://www.smurfomatic.plus.com/sttim.gif

“Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”

Benjamin Franklin

Tetleys Block F E143

Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
We record all IP addresses on the Sportnetwork message boards which may be required by the authorities in case of defamatory or abusive comment. We seek to monitor the Message Boards at regular intervals. We do not associate Sportnetwork with any of the comments and do not take responsibility for any statements or opinions expressed on the Message Boards. If you have any cause for concern over any material posted here please let us know as soon as possible by e-mailing abuse@sportnetwork.net