News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17


By Howlin'
May 26 2013

Life’s a piece of s**t when you look at it Life’s a laugh and death’s a joke it’s true When you’re chewing on life’s gristle Don’t grumble, give a whistle And always know the last laugh is on you And always look on the bright side of life…………........ He’s not the Messiah , he’s a very naughty boy ! 



Aviva Premiership Final

Leicester Tigers v Northampton Saints

Saturday 25th May 2013, Twickenham

KO 15:00

Whether you believe saying nasty words to sir deserves a life sentence or an award for honesty, I guess depends upon your own point of view. Already the “social media” has been awash with the self righteous and sanctimonious desperate to impose their views on the rest of us as usual. It’s a good job that the internet wasn’t around between the 15th and 18th centuries . If it had, over half the population of Europe would have been burned at the stake or hung as a witch due to the overwhelming evidence of those who know everything with such certainty.

My view is that if a player stands toe to toe with a referee and gives them a piece of their mind, then I think they probably do deserve a red card and a lengthy ban from the game to consider their options, even if I do still have the lingering doubt that past captains such as Budge Poutney, Martin Johnson and Paul O’Connell (oh yes definitely Paul O’Connell) have probably done just that without sanction.

But where there is doubt over whether the ire is directed at the official or another player then a red card appears harsh in the extreme. Certainly missing a lions tour will ensure that the punishment does not fit the crime. Sadly this fact didn’t enter Mr Barnes head. I doubt any logical thought did pass through his cortex as the decision appeared to me to be made in a fit of pique. A decision made from emotion rather than sound judgement. So why exactly did he think it was aimed at him ? Hmmm.

What I do find very sad is that we were all anticipating a cracking contest, one that would go down to the wire. Win or lose we wanted to leave the stadium proud to say “I was there that day”. Overall, prior to the final, the two great East Midlands rivals had locked horns on 227 previous occasions since they first met at Leicester's Belgrave Cricket & Cycle Ground on 6 November 1880, with the clubs sharing a nil-nil draw, the first of 19 draws. The other matches have ended with Leicester being victorious 126 times and Northampton 82. But amazingly their only previous clash at a neutral venue was in their sole meeting in a final – in last season's Anglo-Welsh Cup final at Worcester, where the Tigers won 26-14. The scene was set for one of the classic finals. Instead most people, including me will start by remembering a classic controversy.

So who exactly is Biggus Dickus ? Let’s examine some facts.

During the match Saints were awarded 13 lineouts of which Leicester stole three. Tigers were awarded 14 of which Saints stole three and one was not straight. So very even , and a good source of possession for both sides. In the game there were only six completed scrums , three on Saints ball , three on Tigers . Although one of Saints saw the ball squirt out and pounced upon for Kitchener’s second half try. So pretty even here.

Saints were awarded 5 penalties. Two in the first half and three in the second. Only one of these was in kicking range, however Dicko tapped and went for Burrell to show good hands for Myler’s try. Saints had no free kicks.

Tigers were awarded 14 penalties and 2 free kicks. 7 of the pens were within kicking range,  2 of these missed.

I find it quite extraordinary that in the entire match Tigers only conceded one penalty within kicking range and only two in their half. They surely must be one of the most disciplined teams in the premiership. Some of you may have a different point of view.

The match itself was still enthralling, although after the first sending off in a premiership final it was inevitable that a team of Tigers quality would eventually wear down 14 men and find the space to win the game. That it was 14 minutes from time before they finally broke away is to the immense credit of remaining players, including all those coming off the bench to stem the tide.

The match had appeared to be all over after only 8 minutes when Goneva’s break and Tigers smart offloading saw Morris go in for the first try of the afternoon. Once converted by Flood , Tigers were 10 points ahead and the side that has scored first in the final has gone onto win in six of the ten previous finals,  the biggest "comeback” that any side has achieved is only three points.

But Saints mustered their forces and Myler’s try rekindled the supporter’s belief. Unfortunately he failed to convert.  Then close to the break Foden went over for what surely completed the Saints comeback. But no. The TMO judged that his foot had touched the line in goal before the ball was grounded. I was hoping for a penalty for Kitchener’s high tackle, having seen many similar given in the past, but this was not even considered by the officials.

After half time the 14 men battled manfully.

Following Foden’s try,

 









unbelievably the 14 men managed to score again Once again Barnes attracted the anger of the Saints follower’s by going to the TMO for something that happened three feet away right in front of his nose.

Perhaps his eyesight is not as sharp as his hearing. Myler converted this one. Had he been successful with the other two Saints would have been back to 24-21 , a fact Westy appeared to be discussing with Jim at the time. Still they were only one score behind. Could it happen ?

No. Sadly, a very brave showing , but it was not to be. Tigers withstood the pressure and finally Tuilagi broke through Wood’s tackle attempt to put the match to bed. Goneva’s try put the icing on the cake following the inevitable interception as Saints desperately tried to play out of defence.


So well done Tigers. A brilliant display of attacking rugby. With nine consecutive premiership finals you still remain the template that we aspire to. 

Whilst Wayne Barnes attends summer training courses to improve his communication skills, for Saints it is all change again. We say a fond farewell to those leaving and thank you for putting your bodies on the line for us.



















We now look forward with anticipation to those who will join us to bolster the squad and join the core of players who have now been toughened and made wiser by their experience yesterday.

In my time watching Saints I have seen them win the sevens, the A league, the championship, the secondary domestic cup, the main domestic cup, the secondary European cup and the main European cup. The one competition that they have competed in that still alludes them is the premiership. Yesterday they came one step closer to that ambition. It doesn’t come by magic, or because supporters moan. It doesn’t come by all the words of wisdom from media commentators. It comes from hard graft every single day, fellowship and teamwork and sheer guts. Have a good rest guys you deserve it. Thank you for the joy and excitement you bring to this supporter. Yesterday was a fantastic day. The atmosphere, the camaraderie with fellow supporters from many different clubs and of course the beer, don’t forget the beer. I AM proud to say I was there. I am proud of your guts and your tenacity. We will be back next year. Oh yes, we will be back.

 

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TIMELINE

5mins TIGERS Pen Flood 3-0

8mins TIGERS Try Morris Con Flood 10-0

15mins SAINTS Try Myler 10-5

22mins TIGERS Miss pen B Youngs

32mins TIGERS Pen Ford 13-5

40mins TIGERS Miss pen Ford

40mins SAINTS Red Hartley

40mins TIGERS Pen Ford 16-5

HALF-TIME TIGERS 16 SAINTS 5

44mins SAINTS Try Foden 16-10

48mins TIGERS Try Kitchener 21-10

55mins TIGERS Pen Ford 24-10

57mins SAINTS Try Dickson Con Myler 24-17

67mins TIGERS Try Tuilagi 29-17

75mins TIGERS Try Goneva 34-17

80mins TIGERS Pen Ford 37-17

FULL-TIME TIGERS 34 SAINTS 17

 

 

 Tom Wood Says:

 

News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: ComeOnYouSaints.com (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2013 20:34

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Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: St Marlowe (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2013 20:40

Thanks Malcolm - it was an honour to publish this review.

David L

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Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: OldPete (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2013 20:55

Malcolm -good one mate

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: PelerinStJames (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2013 20:55

Stunning review, very well written and perfectly sums up so much about the day. Many thanks.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: St.Rich Joe, Niamh and Sam's Dad (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2013 20:58

Howlin that's really well written, well done mate!

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Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Wee Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2013 21:19

That was a @~:*&%^& %&*^(^*( good review and I hope I dont get cited for saying that.
Nicely put and a lone voice worth listening to.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: ChrisG (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2013 21:49

Great write up, summed it up to a tee!

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Phil. (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2013 22:04

What a fantastic read, H!

Many, many thanks, good Sir. (Sm13)

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Saint Tim (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2013 22:21

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Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Christa aka SaintCS (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2013 22:36

A great read howlin. Thanks.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Flinstone Saint (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2013 22:39

What a wonderfully honest review. Many thanks, Howlin.

And thanks for all your positivity throughout the season - it has always been extremely refreshing.

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Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Christy (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2013 22:55

thanks Howlin. Might even be able to watch ITV highlights now.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Matthew (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2013 00:00

Like it, like it a lot.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Eif Jones (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2013 00:12

Publishing the stats for the set plays disguises the truth, the Leicester line out was a shambles and the Saints scrum was a shambles. The Saints scrum cost the game whilst the Leicester line-out got Saints into the game.
Having watched the odd Super game, the line-outs there seem to be going the way of the scrums i.e. the thrower now gets away with a not straight as long as its reasonable, that trait is now coming into NH rugby as well, as was witnessed yesterday.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: SAINT_aitch (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2013 07:28

And along came Eif.

Nice work Malcolm and thanks again for the beer. Catch you sometime next season for a couple.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: glorydayz (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2013 08:13

What a great report.Very eloquent and skilfully written. I too am proud to have been there.

alive and well in Shrubbery Terrace

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Saint Dom in Hanoi (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2013 08:16

Finely crafted and delivered with aplomb.

Great stuff, Malcolm. Enjoyable to read, hard though it is to do, after such a torrid day.

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Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: lilyg (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2013 08:36

Well written with great sentiment, enjoyed that very much :-)

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Russ C (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2013 09:04

Excellent write up Malcolm. It's put the game into perspective a bit more for me.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Roger (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2013 09:17

Great write up. When we lost Flood I thought the day was going your way. But then when you lost Dylan (Dylan lost Dylan?)I felt it was always going to go our way. Mind you, Ben Foden did his level best to defy the odds. He was my MOM.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Ian Spokes (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2013 10:22

Excellent work Malcolm, thank you.

After reading acres of utter dross on this board since Saturday (much of it from people who should know better), how refreshing it is to see a few actual facts included.

And yes, I agree we will be contenders again next year.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: St_Bart (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2013 10:28

Great, balanced, informative review. Thanks Howlin'

And an excellent response from Woody too, who must have been so disappointed after yet another stonking game from the back row.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: desbralass (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2013 11:23

Howlin, that's a very good piece of writing,especially when we lost the Cup Final.

And as for you,Eif..why didn't you write an article if you didn't approve of this one?Very mean spirited of you.

Bridesmaids no more.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Howlin (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2013 15:39

Thanks for the kind comments everyone.

No Eif, publishing the facts make one challenge one's pre conceptions based on an emotional assessment of one's impression of what was happening at the time. That is of course if one has an open mind and takes time to reflect.

Saint til I die

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: StBleach (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2013 17:04

Great job Malcom..

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Hav,im (IP Logged)
Date: 27/05/2013 18:26

Well done Howlin.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Lady Bay Boy (IP Logged)
Date: 28/05/2013 09:32

As a neutral who thoroughly enjoyed the game may I say how much I enjoyed this excellent report.l Witty, honest and a great use of some excellent photos.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Bob Stainsby (IP Logged)
Date: 28/05/2013 11:44

Malcolm that was an epic report of an epic Saints performance that made me very proud to have been there and in the GB&G.
Seriously well written the report of the season!

Note to eds how about that? a reprt of the season cup?

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Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: St Marlowe (IP Logged)
Date: 28/05/2013 12:20

Good idea
I have a very good prize in mind for that
We need to meet over the summer and sort some things for next year

David L

What if there were no hypothetical questions?

- Live wrong and preposterously

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Stockers (IP Logged)
Date: 28/05/2013 15:08

Very good Malcolm and the many positive comments put the drivel of the Ignorable Man neatly in context.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Bob Stainsby (IP Logged)
Date: 28/05/2013 16:08

BTW that woody interview is immense a future England captain Inspiring and intelligent. Gracious in defeat in fact all of saints graciousness and magnaimity will make the day(s) we taste victory so much sweeter and we will have those days.

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Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Duncan Keene (IP Logged)
Date: 28/05/2013 16:25

I think both sides attacked well all game as shown by the 7 tries that have barely been mentioned by the mainstream.

One other stat I think ESPN showed was the handling errors, I can't remember the figures but think that hurt you too despite some excellent handling for your tries and near tries.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: riverlodge (IP Logged)
Date: 29/05/2013 13:10

belatedly read by this forumite, but definitely worth the wait - well done and thanks howlin.

Re: News: A great day out spoiled Tigers 37 Saints 17
Posted by: Stopsy (IP Logged)
Date: 29/05/2013 16:45

Thanks malcolm, well put.

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