The Summer Quiz Round 6


By Old Pete
July 10 2014

This week’s theme is Law and Order   and therefore all the questions have been vetted  by  Theresa May .   Please don’t  PM  me to ask about / try out an answer . Also  if the question has several elements leading to answer –It is helpful for all concerned  if you show the reasoning that led to your answer. I’m taking a little break now to return in two weeks’ time with the BIG QUIZ of 20 questions.        Editors Note:   Remember that the quzzitor is right even when he or she wrong. (a bit like the Ref) - If you disagree with an answer, please wait until all the answers have been published, before displaying your erudition.  

1.              Where and / or when was trial by jury regularly suspended in the UK    

 

2.              In terms of the organisation of their law enforcement  agencies  what do Italy , France and Spain have in common.

 

3.              In which British City and when were tanks ( not armoured cars etc. – but actual tanks )  deployed to quell rioting. 

 

4.              Which US President courted controversy by suspending Habeas Corpus

 

5.              In relative terms  many of the court room story lines in the TV drama series  Judge John Deed just couldn’t happen – why ?  

 

6.         A dentist from Georgia , a woman with a large nose and a circus trapeze performer suggest which police action at  which  approved location?

 

7.         What links Oliver Cromwell with a fictional American lawman.  

 

8.        What police operation is suggested by a traditional and often ancient resident of Churchyards

 

9.         At which  famous trial did   Counsel invoke the sensitivities of wives and servants to further accentuate the heinous nature of the alleged offence.  

 

10 .      In 1969   Noel Coward ended up in prison – how was that ?   

The Summer Quiz Round 6
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Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Jon in Wherever (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 07:00

5. I'm guessing it's something to do with the judge banging his gavel. British judges don't use them. Thank you QI!

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Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: OldPete (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 07:18

John- never thought of that - but it is a minor detail compared to the major problem I have in mind.

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Clegthorpe (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 09:15

8: Yewtree. Interestingly, there is a theory that many old curches were built next to established Yew trees, rather than the trees being planted in the churchyards, Yews having been seen as sacred long before Christianity.

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: OldPete (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 09:29

Clegthorpe - correct .

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Clegthorpe (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 09:43

5: I've never actually seen this programme, but going by the wording of the question I am guessing the the eponymous hero is married to / in a relationship with / father or brother of one of the regular barristers?

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Matthew (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 11:01

Was 9 the publication of Lady Chatterley's Lover?

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Matthew (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 11:04

And is 2 something to do with them being branches of the military in some way? I saw the French film Rebellion recently and was doing a bit of research to figure out what all the French organisations mentioned in it were!

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Wee Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 11:07

Beat me to it Mathew I think they are part of the military rather than civil authorities

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Wee Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 11:11

3 Glasgow battle of George Square. 1919 I think they were mk4 ie heavies!

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: OldPete (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 12:07

Folks - can we actually have a definitive go at the answers - I cant comment on guesses suggestions and near misses as its not fair on others who may get the complete right answer.

If it were a Pub Quiz - we would only go by what is written down on the anwser sheet and you wouldn't be able to ask if the answer is something to do with X

Meanwhile Wee Jim has Q3 right.

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: saintian (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 12:20

10 Was he there as 'Mr Bridger' in 'The Italian Job'?

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Wee Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 12:26

Understood Pete in which case my response to Q2 is that they are part of the military organisation in those countries

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: saintian (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 12:33

6. The famous dentist from Georgia is John Henry 'Doc' Holliday which suggests the answer is 'Gunfight at the OK Corral'...I can't think of answers as to the identity of the woman with the big nose or the circus trapeze performer though.

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Wee Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 12:37

7 Ironside - Cromwell formed the Ironside cavalry for the parliamentary forces and Ironside was a wheelchair bound US detective on TV.
Its also a much older name than either of them ( and my middle name)

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Matthew (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 12:38

Ironside is the link for Q7 - Oliver Cromwell was known as 'Old Ironsides' and Ironside was one of those US detective series that always seemed to be on TV on a Saturday afternoon when I was young.

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Jon in Wherever (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 13:41

4. Habeas corpus was suspended during the Civil War by Lincoln. Thanks, American wife!

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Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: OldPete (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 14:42

Those that are exactly right so far

John in Alaska - or rather his MRs - Q4 - correct .

St Ian, Q 10 correct Sir.

Q7 - Wee Jim is correct.

Cromwell was not known as Old Ironsides - Old Noll - yes His cavalry were called ironsides because of their steel body armour.

Others are close but not right on target- in some cases you are just not answering the question as put.

Also answers based on one element of a three element question require more information about how all three elements contribute to the answer.

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Wee Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 15:10

Q2 They are all gendamerie:
Gendamerie Nationale in France
Carabinieri in Itay
Civil Guard in Spain



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Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: smurfomatic (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 16:40

Is 5 something to do with the "level" of judge / court represented and the sort of cases they should see? E.g. a magistrates court would not try a murder case.

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Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: OldPete (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 21:25

Wee Jim - you are getting there - but gendarmerie is a particularly French term.

Smurf - no - although to be fair he does try both civil and criminal cases with no change in his attire ( red robes are not warn for civil cases )

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Wee Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 22:03

Q2 Stepping back - they are all military units

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Clegthorpe (IP Logged)
Date: 11/07/2014 23:05

Q2: I think those countries have BOTH a civilian AND a military police force; in France they are the Police Nationale and the Gendarmerie, I'm not sure of the names of the civilian forces in the other two countries, but the military ones, as has already been stated, are the Carabinieri and the Guardia Civil.



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Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Sarge (IP Logged)
Date: 12/07/2014 00:42

Q1: In the 1970s trial by jury was suspended in Northern Ireland for cases involving terrorism. In place of the jury a single judge decided guilt or innocence in what were known as "Diplock Courts".

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: smurfomatic (IP Logged)
Date: 12/07/2014 09:31

OK then, another go at 5 - haven't watched the programme in a while, but he often seemed to try cases where a relative - ex-wife or current girlfriend - were either defence or prosecution, which would be a conflict of interest?

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Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: OldPete (IP Logged)
Date: 12/07/2014 09:58

Wee Jim and Clegthorpe - between you - you are as close as you will get

my wording "is that they all have a para- military force - Gendarmerie ; Carabinieri ; Guarda Civil - with military ranks ; discipline and they live in barracks.

Sarge - 1 - correct sir.

Smurf - Q5 -OK - yes - he the judge regularly sits on cases where any combination of his ex wife - current mistress and even daughter appear as counsel. In any such circumstance a judge would be expected to recuse himself from presiding.

This protocol applies across the legal system. I once had to wait around while they sorted out a Tribunal bench because one of the lay members had been out to diner with the solicitor representing the claimant the night before.

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Sarge (IP Logged)
Date: 13/07/2014 03:53

Q9:As previously only intimated - in the trial of the Crown v Penguin for the publication of Lady Chatterly's Lover the prosecuting counsel's summary to the jury included something along the lines of "Would you wish your wife or servant to read this book?"

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Jon in Wherever (IP Logged)
Date: 13/07/2014 05:14

I was intrigued by Saint Ian's idea for question 6, so did a little digging. Assuming he's correct that the dentist from Georgia was Doc Holliday, then the big nose woman was Big Nose Kate, Holliday's wife, and the only link to a trapeze artist I could find was the circus trained Burt Lancaster who played Wyatt Earp in the 1957 movie.

Took me a while to find all that, so I hope it's right! If it is, Saint Ian gets the credit.

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Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Clegthorpe (IP Logged)
Date: 13/07/2014 08:18

Continuing in from St. Ian and JiA's thinking, the gunfight didn't actually take place in the "approved location," the OK Corrall, it happened in an alley adjacent to Fly's photography studio and boarding house. A trapeze artist is a "flyer." Seem's a bit tenuous to me, but it's the best I can come up with.

EDIT: Ignore the above, Jon is right about Burt Lanacaster, not because he was a trapeze artist (he was an acrobat) but because he played one in Trapeze.



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Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: OldPete (IP Logged)
Date: 13/07/2014 08:47

Lady Chatterley's lover - and Counsels opening address actually . Well done Sarge.

and Q6 - between you John in A, St Ian , Clegthorpe -- you have it -

Doc Holiday was the dentist from Georgia - Big Nose Kate was his paramour - and Wyatt Earp was played in the film by former circus acrobat the great Burt.

As for the location - anything other than referring to the OK coral rather spoils the question - I have to have a bit of licence you know.

Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Jon in Wherever (IP Logged)
Date: 13/07/2014 19:06

Oh, I don't know - the gunfight in that bit round behind the OK Corral has a certain ring to it...

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Re: The Summer Quiz Round 6
Posted by: Saint Adam of Weedon (IP Logged)
Date: 14/07/2014 16:47

Q5, I know in many of the cases one of the barristers involved is his wife or mistress. Presumably this wouldn't be allowed in real life.

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