Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
By Saint Ted
September 6 2018
NORTHAMPTON SAINTS v HARLEQUINSGallagher Premiership Rugby, Round 2Friday 7th September, 2018Franklin’s GardensKick-off: 7.45pm
Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: Marching On (IP Logged)
Date: 06/09/2018 13:16
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Teams Up
Posted by: Walks11 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/09/2018 11:57
NORTHAMPTON SAINTS v HARLEQUINS
Gallagher Premiership Rugby, Round 2
Friday 7th September, 2018
Franklin’s Gardens
Kick-off: 7.45pm
15 Ahsee Tuala
14 Ken Pisi
13 Luther Burrell
12 Piers Francis
11 Tom Collins
10 Dan Biggar
9 Cobus Reinach
1 Alex Waller (c)
2 James Fish
3 Ben Franks
4 David Ribbans
5 Courtney Lawes
6 James Haskell
7 Heinrich Brüssow
8 Teimana Harrison
Replacements:
16 Dylan Hartley
17 Francois van Wyk
18 Ehren Painter
19 Api Ratuniyarawa
20 Jamie Gibson
21 Alex Mitchell
22 Andy Symons
23 Harry Mallinder
Not available for selection:
Dom Barrow (hamstring), Alex Coles (knee), James Craig (concussion), Paul Hill (shoulder), Rory Hutchinson (knee), Reece Marshall (foot), Toby Trinder (foot), Tom Wood (groin), and Charlie Davies (foot).
Gallagher Premiership Rugby, Round 2
Friday 7th September, 2018
Franklin’s Gardens
Kick-off: 7.45pm
15 Ahsee Tuala
14 Ken Pisi
13 Luther Burrell
12 Piers Francis
11 Tom Collins
10 Dan Biggar
9 Cobus Reinach
1 Alex Waller (c)
2 James Fish
3 Ben Franks
4 David Ribbans
5 Courtney Lawes
6 James Haskell
7 Heinrich Brüssow
8 Teimana Harrison
Replacements:
16 Dylan Hartley
17 Francois van Wyk
18 Ehren Painter
19 Api Ratuniyarawa
20 Jamie Gibson
21 Alex Mitchell
22 Andy Symons
23 Harry Mallinder
Not available for selection:
Dom Barrow (hamstring), Alex Coles (knee), James Craig (concussion), Paul Hill (shoulder), Rory Hutchinson (knee), Reece Marshall (foot), Toby Trinder (foot), Tom Wood (groin), and Charlie Davies (foot).
Re: Teams Up
Posted by: alwayshopeful (IP Logged)
Date: 06/09/2018 12:15
Forwards look good,
In the backs looking for 9- 10- and 12 to really kick on and, an opportunity for Symons off the bench to make a claim.
Come on you saints
In the backs looking for 9- 10- and 12 to really kick on and, an opportunity for Symons off the bench to make a claim.
Come on you saints
Re: Teams Up
Posted by: tedge (IP Logged)
Date: 06/09/2018 12:16
Apart from Pisi pretty much the same as Glaws (as originally selected with Haskell). Just Mallinder and Symons additional on the bench. Expect the two new wingers to play for thw Wanderers next.
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: Walks11 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/09/2018 14:37
I think Harry will be starting next week, just a matter of game time. Interested to see how Symons goes too, if given opportunity
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: Deesaint (IP Logged)
Date: 06/09/2018 14:37
I fear our Achilles heal is the back three 11 14 and 15, really hope they step up and prove me wrong.
Still not smitten with our front row especially against a big quins contingent. Would like to see Franks (played loose for NZ ) Dylan and Painter and hopefully will one day.
Back 5 look good just need to put a couple of stone of muscle on 4 5 and 8 and we will be away.
Nervous going into this one. but really hoping for the win
If only to see some positives on this Board.
Still not smitten with our front row especially against a big quins contingent. Would like to see Franks (played loose for NZ ) Dylan and Painter and hopefully will one day.
Back 5 look good just need to put a couple of stone of muscle on 4 5 and 8 and we will be away.
Nervous going into this one. but really hoping for the win
If only to see some positives on this Board.
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: Saint Maul (IP Logged)
Date: 06/09/2018 15:24
With two attacking teams it promises to be an entertaining game.
No Brown, Horwill, Clifford or Sinkler for Quins will help our cause - though they still put 50 points on Sale.
Of everything, how Painter goes at tighthead when he comes on is what I'll be watching most closely. If he can help give us parity or even the upper hand at scrum time that transforms our chances for the season. IMHO.
Come on you Saints!!!!
No Brown, Horwill, Clifford or Sinkler for Quins will help our cause - though they still put 50 points on Sale.
Of everything, how Painter goes at tighthead when he comes on is what I'll be watching most closely. If he can help give us parity or even the upper hand at scrum time that transforms our chances for the season. IMHO.
Come on you Saints!!!!
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: HerbieSaint (IP Logged)
Date: 06/09/2018 15:27
Burrell needs to do a lot better in this game or I'd expect him to be dropped for the next one.
Really disappointing hit out from him last week. I think our back line will look a lot different when we've got Taqele and Mallinder starting but I don't think they'll be rushed in to the team.
Really disappointing hit out from him last week. I think our back line will look a lot different when we've got Taqele and Mallinder starting but I don't think they'll be rushed in to the team.
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: skybluesaint (IP Logged)
Date: 06/09/2018 15:40
Quote:Deesaint
Still not smitten with our front row especially against a big quins contingent. Would like to see Franks (played loose for NZ ) Dylan and Painter and hopefully will one day.
As I said in an earlier thread but rather late in the day, Lennie Newman on BBC Radio Northampton felt that Franks was clearly playing out of position at TH and Glouc took advantage. We seem vulnerable when 1 of our THs is injured.
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: Le marseillais (IP Logged)
Date: 06/09/2018 19:51
Mallinder on the bench.
Do you know why ?
ASM Clermont Auvergne supporter
Do you know why ?
ASM Clermont Auvergne supporter
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: Walks11 (IP Logged)
Date: 06/09/2018 20:06
Quote:Le marseillais
Mallinder on the bench.
Do you know why ?
Missed a big chunk of end of last season due to illness we believe and still a bit rusty, expect him to start in next couple of weeks
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: Happywifehappylife (IP Logged)
Date: 06/09/2018 22:37
Quote:Walks11Quote:Le marseillais
Mallinder on the bench.
Do you know why ?
Missed a big chunk of end of last season due to illness we believe and still a bit rusty, expect him to start in next couple of weeks
He also played a full on 70 minutes on Monday night & was pretty impressive
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: Lamont4Saints (IP Logged)
Date: 07/09/2018 06:40
Quote:skybluesaintQuote:Deesaint
Still not smitten with our front row especially against a big quins contingent. Would like to see Franks (played loose for NZ ) Dylan and Painter and hopefully will one day.
As I said in an earlier thread but rather late in the day, Lennie Newman on BBC Radio Northampton felt that Franks was clearly playing out of position at TH and Glouc took advantage. We seem vulnerable when 1 of our THs is injured.
Haven’t two of our tight heads been injured until recently, Hill and JFR? I’m not sure if I imagined that or not.
For me Franks played brilliantly in the loose and did better in the scrum than Waller. So we should be changing our loose head not our right head.
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: Wilson Pickett (IP Logged)
Date: 07/09/2018 08:04
Quote:Le marseillais
Mallinder on the bench.
Do you know why ?
Hey Phil, he’s just coming back from injury
easy win this
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: Le marseillais (IP Logged)
Date: 07/09/2018 10:45
Hey Tom.
Tought you were gone of the forum, sent you a MP a few weeks ago.
OK for Mallinder, thanks to eveybody for the answer.
Tom, please let's go on on MP.
(I believe I can't text you)
ASM Clermont Auvergne supporter
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018:09:07:10:54:49 by Le marseillais.
Tought you were gone of the forum, sent you a MP a few weeks ago.
OK for Mallinder, thanks to eveybody for the answer.
Tom, please let's go on on MP.
(I believe I can't text you)
ASM Clermont Auvergne supporter
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018:09:07:10:54:49 by Le marseillais.
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: LeicesterSaint (IP Logged)
Date: 07/09/2018 11:00
Interesting comment from Boyd, reinforcing something he had said in preseason that he won't often have Grayson on the bench - he sees Biggar as an 80 minute player and doesn't want Grayson getting five and ten minutes here and there. Instead he will get full games when Biggar is away or injured.
That means that the plan against injury to Biggar is Francis to ten and Symonds to 12? For me Francis didn't shine at 10 last season and we looked better with Mallinder - plus Francis did look good at 12 on Saturday.....
It does mean we can stack the bench with forwards though....
That means that the plan against injury to Biggar is Francis to ten and Symonds to 12? For me Francis didn't shine at 10 last season and we looked better with Mallinder - plus Francis did look good at 12 on Saturday.....
It does mean we can stack the bench with forwards though....
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: Hantsaintsrus4 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/09/2018 11:38
If Burrel shows how he can knock people back in the tackle, pass with both hands, kick and not loose the ball in contact he may come onto Jones' radar. He needs to be aware of teammates around him when on the charge. hic!
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: Ady32 (IP Logged)
Date: 07/09/2018 11:43
Quote:LeicesterSaint
Interesting comment from Boyd, reinforcing something he had said in preseason that he won't often have Grayson on the bench - he sees Biggar as an 80 minute player and doesn't want Grayson getting five and ten minutes here and there. Instead he will get full games when Biggar is away or injured.
That means that the plan against injury to Biggar is Francis to ten and Symonds to 12? For me Francis didn't shine at 10 last season and we looked better with Mallinder - plus Francis did look good at 12 on Saturday.....
It does mean we can stack the bench with forwards though....
Thats definitely what Mr Boyd said preseason, although it doesn't have to be Piers to 10 with Harry on the bench/pitch.
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: stoofer (IP Logged)
Date: 07/09/2018 12:18
Surprised to see Brussow give another chance over Gibson after his penalty count last week. I really hope we see an improvement on this score this week.
Ditto Franks. I'm guessing that JFR isn't fully fit yet?
Ditto Franks. I'm guessing that JFR isn't fully fit yet?
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: Deesaint (IP Logged)
Date: 07/09/2018 13:16
Quote:stoofer
Surprised to see Brussow give another chance over Gibson after his penalty count last week. I really hope we see an improvement on this score this week.
Ditto Franks. I'm guessing that JFR isn't fully fit yet?
Just shows how people see things differently
I thought Brussow played very well
Disruptive in the breakdown
Great steal on the floor
Available to be first receiver to take the ball up
Played very well as link man between forwards and backs
Something we haven’t seen for a long time
Had to do a lot more work once Haskell pulled out
The first penalty for high tackle was technically a penalty but Brussow was trying to stop and turn at the same time
Thankfully he made the tackle because there wasn’t much after him and the try line
I would have feared a backrow of Ludlum Harrison and Gibson against Gloucester
Some very short memories of our failings last year
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: LeicesterSaint (IP Logged)
Date: 07/09/2018 13:23
Again Boyd summed up quite neatly with Brussow, it reflected the team in being great in parts and downright dumb in others! However he turned up on Monday and apologised, recognising that he was perhaps too fired up or excitable, I think he also suffered in being on the back foot too often.
He'll recalibrate and take a more measured approach I'm sure, plus having Hask there to help with some of it will help a lot - I'm a fan of Ludlam in quicker games but didn't see much on Saturday against a big pack.
He'll recalibrate and take a more measured approach I'm sure, plus having Hask there to help with some of it will help a lot - I'm a fan of Ludlam in quicker games but didn't see much on Saturday against a big pack.
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: stoofer (IP Logged)
Date: 07/09/2018 13:35
I also don't mean to single Brussow out. Disciplne has been a consistent team failing for over a season now. In trying to establish new standards and consequences I thought the coaching team may have benched him for this one. Let's hope its being addressed in other ways....
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: Neil-H (IP Logged)
Date: 07/09/2018 13:37
I am with you Deesaint, loved Brussow last week, 6 penalties, 2 high tackles and 1 for foot in front of ball at ruck when he saw gap picked and went.. I wont knock him for that one.
He was an annoying pain in the @#$%& and everywhere.. same again please and with a better balanced back row, will be able to do more imho
Can see him just getting better n better as he works out refs n team gels more
He was an annoying pain in the @#$%& and everywhere.. same again please and with a better balanced back row, will be able to do more imho
Can see him just getting better n better as he works out refs n team gels more
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: saintsfella (IP Logged)
Date: 07/09/2018 16:44
Clearly 6 pens unacceptable but I loved every minute of his play. Agressuve and niggly and going in the right direction to justify his reputation.
Re: Teams Up: Saints v Harlequins
Posted by: andysaint (IP Logged)
Date: 07/09/2018 17:17
Quote:stoofer
I also don't mean to single Brussow out. Disciplne has been a consistent team failing for over a season now. In trying to establish new standards and consequences I thought the coaching team may have benched him for this one. Let's hope its being addressed in other ways....
I don’t think that is the right tone to set one game into a new regime.
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